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    Help, what rivets, glove, solder?

    Hi everyone my name is Chris and I'm living in Ireland, I'm new here but have had a keen interest in making a Freddy glove (part 1/2) for a long time, I tried a few years ago but gave up when I couldn't get the right solder in for the blades, I watched some video's on youtube etc and a lot of guys were using lead free plumbing solder (silverbright 100 4%silver), apparently it is safer for plumbing pipes that carry fresh water as a-posed to the old lead bearing solder but more importantly often contains around 4% silver which helps in soldering stainless steel to copper.
    Unfortunately lead solder is still being used in my local area and they don't sell silver solder, I have a special silver solder flux for brazing/soldering using high content solder rods(40/50% silver) which I can get online which are meant to be very good for soldering dissimilar metals but they are very expensive.

    I understand the 'Tandy cap rivets' are good for the rivets but what size do I use?, what diameter caps were the screen used ones on the fingers, knuckles and hand plate, all the same or different?
    The posts are 4mm right?
    If they don't work out I can pen some 'real rivets' out of brass bar that would be supper strong, but this is very time consuming

    Then there is the gloves, can anyone steer me in the right direction for accurate gloves?
    I have seen some on ebay that may do if I can't find any, these:- http://www.ebay.ie/itm/361585780679?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    Any help would be appreciated thanks!

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    Chris, silver solder can easily be found on Ebay, same with the flux so I'd check there for it.
    As for the rivets, if your using Tandy and it's for a part 1 / 2 then get the "small" size the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrorgloves View Post
    Chris, silver solder can easily be found on Ebay, same with the flux so I'd check there for it.
    As for the rivets, if your using Tandy and it's for a part 1 / 2 then get the "small" size the list.
    Hi terrorgloves,
    Yes have found 'plumbers silver solder' on ebay but the postage to Ireland is very expensive, I got some jewelers silver solder (55% silver) to try out and it worked a dream and is super strong! (still expensive though),
    I want to make a super strong high end glove, maybe a run of them, I looked at the tandy rivets on a friends glove and although they are screen accurate I don't like how flimsy they are, I'm going to test some hand peened brass rivets, a lot more expensive and labour intensive but a much better job, long lasting and still looks screen accurate from the outside.
    I was recently given a set of part1/2 templates extrapolated from the hero glove, I made up a few test pieces and although length wise they are fine, width wise the stalls are way too thin to take my fingers and a glove, I can only assume that Robert had 'skinny' fingers so i working on stretching the templates width wise to accommodate my size!

    Here is my first go at silver soldering, non accurate template and blade by the way, just a test piece!
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    First starting point with the armature, your fingers don't go inside the armature, the armature sits on top of your hand, if you have a copy of the screenused templates, you will encounter things like it not being able to move right and be hard to shape, but that's what you need to study all the bends for, from screen caps, pictures and all that jazz, it's no easy task, and then once you get ringlets attached, you need to tweak the mobility again (If you still have problems with it fitting) but in case you have a large hand, you would need to make them bigger overall, tips, stalls and backplate, robert does have average hands and the original leather was a large (Shrunk down overtime from it being in the bathtub scene, from what I've read) but even then you can see it sits on top of the hand, the VS glove you have your fingers inside the armature because of the widths it has and the thick ringlets, due to it being a heavy duty build

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    The Ebay link in top post from those gloves they have the leather tab/ with metal buckle-clasp on the "wrong" site of the glove it should be on the thumbside. Looking like these for example:


    http://store.carolinaglovecompany.com/grcowbaandta.html

    https://www.magidglove.com/Magid-Roa...t-Thumb-2.aspx

    http://www.westchesterprotects.com/product/990t

    http://abreast.com.pk/product_large_image/750l_6402.jpg

    https://www.empiresafety.com/sku-150...ape-strap.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by welshchris77 View Post
    Hi terrorgloves,
    Yes have found 'plumbers silver solder' on ebay but the postage to Ireland is very expensive, I got some jewelers silver solder (55% silver) to try out and it worked a dream and is super strong! (still expensive though),
    I want to make a super strong high end glove, maybe a run of them, I looked at the tandy rivets on a friends glove and although they are screen accurate I don't like how flimsy they are, I'm going to test some hand peened brass rivets, a lot more expensive and labour intensive but a much better job, long lasting and still looks screen accurate from the outside.
    I was recently given a set of part1/2 templates extrapolated from the hero glove, I made up a few test pieces and although length wise they are fine, width wise the stalls are way too thin to take my fingers and a glove, I can only assume that Robert had 'skinny' fingers so i working on stretching the templates width wise to accommodate my size!

    Here is my first go at silver soldering, non accurate template and blade by the way, just a test piece!
    I used any kind of rivets as long as its double cap rivets. I always go with 7 mm size, i think 6 mm is for part 4...but that's just me. As for the templates, if you got it right...then all you need to do is working on the bending because not all the bending on the fingers are straight and neat. It's all crooked and numerous bends needed for each individual fingers. Yes Robert's hand is around small to medium. The leather glove is also using large size but if you don't wanna shrunk it, go ahead and buy the medium size instead. That's the leather size what Mark Petrie and Jameson used from now on. Here's my handmade AST part 1/2 glove (As Seen Today), not even close to the real one tho...but i tried
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranshiiekrueger84 View Post
    First starting point with the armature, your fingers don't go inside the armature, the armature sits on top of your hand, if you have a copy of the screenused templates, you will encounter things like it not being able to move right and be hard to shape, but that's what you need to study all the bends for, from screen caps, pictures and all that jazz, it's no easy task, and then once you get ringlets attached, you need to tweak the mobility again (If you still have problems with it fitting) but in case you have a large hand, you would need to make them bigger overall, tips, stalls and backplate, robert does have average hands and the original leather was a large (Shrunk down overtime from it being in the bathtub scene, from what I've read) but even then you can see it sits on top of the hand, the VS glove you have your fingers inside the armature because of the widths it has and the thick ringlets, due to it being a heavy duty build
    Hi ranshiiekrueger84, I realize that the armature sits on top on the hand, I was thinking more of the area of the armature where the rivets are that sits each side of the finger joint, I am studying screen used glove pictures and have made many card board templates and cooper tests!, tick to get it to 'pivot' properly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard333 View Post
    The Ebay link in top post from those gloves they have the leather tab/ with metal buckle-clasp on the "wrong" site of the glove it should be on the thumbside. Looking like these for example:


    http://store.carolinaglovecompany.com/grcowbaandta.html

    https://www.magidglove.com/Magid-Roa...t-Thumb-2.aspx

    http://www.westchesterprotects.com/product/990t

    http://abreast.com.pk/product_large_image/750l_6402.jpg

    https://www.empiresafety.com/sku-150...ape-strap.html
    Thanks for the info Gerard333, I can see what you mean about the clasp being on the thumb side, my friend is going to the states in a few weeks and is going to pick up some well lamont gloves for me, specifically these ones:-
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wells-Lam...ingMethod=p13n
    Are these still considered 'accurate'?

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    Thanks CerealKiller, I have ordered some 6mm Tandy double cap rivets to experiment with, the bending is tricky alright, I think your right about Roberts hand being 'small to medium', I'm not sure exactly what size my hands are but I'm guessing medium or medium to large, I will be adding a bit more 'width' to the template, this is the template I was given by the way, thoughts anyone?
    Does it look accurate?
    template from part 1:2 original hero prop.jpg

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    Great advice guys!, can I ask does anyone know the correct length the blades should be from fingertip to blade tip?
    looks to be around 114mm?

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    Did a quick drawing, if someone has an accurate part 1/2 glove can they measure the blade and let me know if mine is right please!
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